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  3. Right — been on this thing for something like six months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so thought I’d chuck my thoughts in since someone asked me the other day. I’m in the UK, generally do football and horses, nothing mad, for context.

    How I found it was actually embarrassing — I couldn’t ever figure out what an ew payout actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I’d just guess and get a shock. Now punch the numbers in before every slip, even a simple single bet.

    The single bet calculator tool is the one I use most — you put in the price and your stake and it shows profit and total return straight away, either odds format. There’s also the bigger stuff — acca and treble returns, lucky 15s, yankees, which is where I’d always mess it up. Have a go yourself, it’s over at vig calculator decimal — free, no signup.

    The thing that really made a difference were the more serious tools. The implied probability converter that shows how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly criterion tool — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. Dutching calculator gets used a fair bit for when I’m covering two or three runners.

    Not all sunshine though. Its design is a bit basic — no polish, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. Phone-wise it works although the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. There’s no proper app, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame but worth saying.

    Anyway. Free, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. If anyone even now adds it up in their head, have a look — saves me a load of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

  4. OK — have been messing about with this thing for about a few months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d write something up since a mate asked me a few days back. Am in the UK, generally do football and horses, small stakes, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    How I found it was genuinely pretty stupid — I could never figure out what an each way payout actually was with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I’d wing it and then be surprised. Now I punch the numbers in before every slip, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator tool is the one I open most — you put in the price and your stake and it spits out the return straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the fiddly ones — acca and treble returns, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, and that’s where most people I know lose track. Have a go yourself, it lives at each way dutching calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    One thing that actually shifted things for me was the more serious tools. They’ve got an implied probability thing and it makes obvious the overround, and a kelly calculator — I use half kelly because full kelly is terrifying. The dutch tool is handy too for when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. The interface is pretty plain — no flash, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On my phone it’s usable but the bigger tables make you pinch and zoom. There’s nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — fine by me just flagging it.

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    De tragaperras van sobrados — andan por 8.000 slots entre Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Yo me quedo en Sweet Bonanza y Book of Dead, eso si he tocado tambien alguna de Microgaming. Lo que si el filtro por proveedor a veces se atasca cuando hay tantisimo.

    El casino en directo esta llevada por Evolution y eso se nota: ruletas con crupieres de verdad, Crazy Time para el que le guste el show. El paquete de bienvenida va sobre el 130% y unas 150 giros, con un rollover de x40, que es lo normal del mercado. Tambien hay bonos sin deposito de vez en cuando, puedes mirar lo que hay vigente desde 888starz betting app porque cambian cada mes.

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  9. So — been using this thing for maybe five months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d chuck my thoughts in since a lad on another thread asked me last week. I’m in the UK, mostly stick to footie and the horses, nothing mad, for context.

    How I found it was genuinely a bit daft — I never could work out what an ew payout actually was with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I’d wing it and get a shock. These days I stick my stake in first, every time, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I open most — type in your stake, the odds and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, fractions or decimals. Same tool covers the multiples — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, a yankee, and that’s where most people I know lose track. If you want a look, it lives at how to calculate each way bet — free, no signup.

    The thing that really shifted things for me was the more serious bits. There’s an implied probability converter and it makes obvious what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly staking calculator — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is a quick route to a dead bankroll. The dutching one is decent when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. The design looks very functional, let’s say — not much polish, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On mobile it’s fine though the acca grid are a squeeze. And no proper app, it’s browser only — fine by me but worth saying.

    Right, that’s me. Free, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. Anyone who even now works out returns on a calculator app, try it — saved me a load of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

  10. Right — have been messing about with this thing for maybe six months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so thought I’d write something up since someone asked me last week. Am in the UK, mainly do football and horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.

    How I found it was genuinely pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever get my head round what an each way return would be when the place terms changed. Basically I’d guess and get a shock. These days I punch the numbers in before I place anything, even a straight one-selection punt.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I open most — you drop in your stake, the odds and it spits out the return straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — trebles maths, a lucky 15, a yankee, which is where I’d always mess it up. If you want a look, it lives at 49s patent bet calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    One thing that really shifted things for me was the nerdier tools. There’s an implied probability converter which shows you the overround, plus a kelly calculator — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is a quick route to a dead bankroll. The dutching one is handy too if I’m spreading across selections.

    It’s not perfect mind. The interface is very functional, let’s say — not much polish, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s usable although the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but you asked.

    Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, not plastered in adverts, works. If anyone honestly adds it up in their head, give it a go — saved me a load of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

  11. So — been using this thing for maybe a few months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so figured I’d say something since someone asked me a few days back. I’m based in the UK, generally stick to footie and the horses, small stakes, for context.

    The reason I started using it was actually pretty stupid — I could never work out what an ew return would be when the place terms changed. Basically I’d guess and then be surprised. Now stick my stake in before I place anything, even a straight one-selection punt.

    The single bet calculator tool is the part I open most — type in the price and your stake and it shows returns with no faffing, fractions or decimals. Same tool covers the bigger stuff — acca and treble returns, a lucky 15, yankees, and that’s where I always lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it’s over at acca calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that really made a difference is the more serious tools. They’ve got an probability thing which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly staking tool — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is handy too if I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. Its design feels pretty plain — no polish, it’s clearly function over form. Phone-wise it’s usable but the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. And nothing on the app store, just the site — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.

    Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, works. If you still does the maths on paper, have a look — saved me plenty of arguments with the bookie.

  12. OK — been on this thing for something like five months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d chuck my thoughts in since someone asked me the other day. I’m UK based, mostly stick to footie and the horses, a fiver here and there, for context.

    What got me on it was genuinely a bit daft — I could never work out what an ew payout actually was once you get five places instead of three. I’d just guess and moan when the payout landed. Now type the odds in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I use most — you put in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the bigger stuff — acca and treble returns, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where I always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it lives at super heinz and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    What actually made a difference is the geekier bits. There’s an implied probability calculator and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly criterion calculator — I use half kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is handy too for when I’m covering two or three runners.

    It’s not perfect mind. Its interface feels a bit basic — no polish, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On my phone it’s fine though the lucky 63 breakdown are a squeeze. Also there’s no proper app, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me but you asked.

    Right, that’s me. Free, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. If anyone honestly adds it up in their head, have a look — saves me plenty of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

  13. Ya llevo como cinco meses en 888starz y sinceramente no esperaba gran cosa, porque aqui en Espana te cansas de paginas que venden humo. Abrir la cuenta fue cosa de dos minutos, correo, contrasena y listo, y el minimo para depositar esta en 1-2 euros, asi puedes tantear sin jugarte el sueldo.

    De tragaperras tienen un catalogo enorme — hablamos de 8.000 titulos de proveedores como Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Yo tiro mucho de Gates of Olympus y Sweet Bonanza, eso si de vez en cuando pruebo los Megaways. La pega es que el filtro por proveedor a veces se atasca cuando hay tantisimo.

    El casino en directo esta llevada por Evolution y eso se nota: blackjack con gente real, los game shows tipo Crazy Time para el que le guste el show. La oferta de entrada va sobre el 100% y unas 150 giros, el wagering esta en x35, que es lo normal del mercado. Suele haber algun free spin sin deposito, puedes mirar lo que hay vigente directamente en 888starz registration antes de meter dinero.

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    La zona en vivo es de Evolution, basicamente y se nota la diferencia: ruletas con crupieres de verdad, los game shows tipo Crazy Time para el que le guste el show. El paquete de bienvenida es de un 100% y unas 150 giros, con un rollover de x35, que no es regalado pero tampoco un robo. Tambien hay alguna promo sin deposito, yo miraria lo que hay vigente en 888starz promo code no deposit antes de registrarte.

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    El movil cumple, hay APK para Android pero yo uso el navegador y me sobra. El soporte te contesta en castellano, tardaron unos 10 minutos con una duda de documentacion. Operan con licencia de Curazao, que no es la DGOJ y hay que saberlo antes de entrar. A mi de momento me ha respondido, pero ojo con el rollover de las promos.

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